The Unfiltered Truth About Fitness, Nutrition, and TRT with Michal Alster

The gym is not a place to control your body fat and some people they need an asshole in their life telling them straight up you're fucking fat.

T. What's your take on the testosterone replacement therapy? Are you for it, against it? When should we do it?

Are you considering? You've been eating meat all your life. You cannot go vegan from day to day because this is your new value set. If you have anything that is giving you pain. It is something you should most absolutely address at the gym.

Like imagine what I'm going to say in 50 or 60. I can't accept this.

Mother nature never planned for us to live this long, and that's why we need this move. I believe performance-enhancing drugs should be allowed in all professional sports, because sports are a spectacle. Period, period.

Today, my guest is Michal, an intrepid adventurer and entrepreneur. Born and raised in Warsaw, he had the crazy passion for sports or extreme sports, I'd say and he turned this passion into a very successful catering business, kickfit. Today, he's gonna tell us all about this story and I can't wait for you to enjoy this episode. Michal, how are you Welcome? To the show. Thank you for joining us today. It's an honor to have you.

Thank you for having me. I hope to deliver the.

Deliver. I hope to deliver. You delivered my food already today. The cake fit. That's why you're so sharp and agile today. Exactly so if someone clicks on this podcast today and we have to convince them to stay and listen to us, why should they stay?

They should stay, because you're going to do a great job editing the reels, making the abstract. It's gonna be the bait, okay, but I hope to inspire your followers, your, the audience audience, the audience Audience, our audience on why they should take care of their health and why it's fundamental to their well-being. Maybe our discussion will illustrate how I was successful convincing you to take better care of yourself, and I believe it's been. It's delivered, you delivered.

Yeah, beautiful care of yourself and I believe it's been it's delivered you delivered. Yeah, beautiful, all right. So, as a former athlete and a successful entrepreneur right now, thank you. Thank you. How did the competitiveness of sport influence your approach to business?

Sports and business are measurable. There's always a score. Somebody's keeping it the referee or you yourself deep in your heart. So I I believe it's fair to say that this competitive behavior is characteristic to my approach with which I look at things, and I try to measure my athletic performance with many indexes, and at KickFit, my business, I also look at different performance indexes. Of course, the bottom line, your profit, is the most important one, but you can measure your customer satisfaction in different areas and that's something I believe we've been successful doing. I believe we've been successful doing looking at different areas in which we, in which our service again delivers, because it's more than just food at your doorstep in the morning, it's the overall satisfaction with the kickfit experience so what actually inspired you to start kickfit?

when did you start the company? It's back in the days because I remember the restaurant first is that correct?

that is correct. That is 2014 and it's been absolutely accidental. It's never been planned for. The catering service is a how do you say? Spin-off from the restaurant business, and the restaurant business failed actually. So our catering service has grown from a failed business idea. Our common friend, stanislaw Bonton, has inspired me to dive into the food industry. That's actually how it all came to be.

So why do you think the restaurant failed and what are the lessons you learned? Because you know we say failure is the best teacher in life. So why do you think that business failed and what did you learn from that failure?

Objectively it failed. It's no longer here. It didn't last. It was not profitable. It was a learning ground for everything that I had to experience to set up the catering service. If it wasn't for the restaurants, none of the things that took place would allow for cake fit catering today okay, so what inspired you to do this spin-off, to do this switch?

this spin-off was absolutely organic, if I may. Our clients who called daily for their lunch service they they were very frequent daily. There were daily customers and at some point we could not deliver to them on time due to high traffic and I requested that they consider us delivering their food in the evening for the upcoming day so that they don't have to rush the next day with ordering the food. They don't have to be concerned about us being late. And most of them bought into that idea. So we started delivering their lunches not at the lunch hour but the day before and the evening. And that's really how it all came about Just sending cold because it was cold food to our clients to reheat on the following day.

You once said I don't imagine an Italian guy sitting eating from a box, and that hit me so hard, man, I was like, damn, moroccans too, Everything about our culture is about food and sharing a meal. So the aspect of sitting there and eating your food alone is kind of depressing, you know, for a Moroccan guy, from a Moroccan perspective. So I was looking like, okay, what can I do? You know, I'm in the restaurant and I start my work, you know, after the gym, which is around 1 pm or maybe 2 pm. So first, yeah, well, it's not very traditional Leisure class hours, but I do. Yeah, well, it's not very traditional leisure class hours, but I do finish around midnight. So, okay, okay, that's when I'm most productive.

So the morning I, you know, I read, I go to the gym and then at 1 pm I'm ready to, to rock and roll, and so I needed to find, you know, something that fits. And I remember I hired this girl and I tell her look, you have to prepare this for me, this, this, this, and she would bring the food every day. But it was just like, so daunting man, it's just like the logistic was just too much. Sometimes she's late and I'm late to eat my food and that's when I started Googling and I started having these catering companies.

I have to say it was horrendous at the beginning because it was not consistent. The food it was like sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad Until I got your company suggested to me and since then I never switched. So I think it's been what five or six years yes, sir, you're welcome, by the way, where's my discount? So my question is this these catering companies they cut corners or cost in because they are like kind of mass production and they don't care about the ingredients or the small details that goes into the food. So how do you do that while staying profitable?

why you think we have good food and it's it's, it's working that is a build-up to your question and I can attack your question from many angles. Yes, here in poland the market for this kind of service is the biggest maybe in all of the world, because pre-cooked food delivery for reheating in united states, fresh food delivered daily, such service does not exist, not a big commercial business there is, are companies, multiple who deliver food twice a week in bulk in dried ice, so it's preset for freezing, continuing the freezing, not refrigeration, but actually freezing. Freezing, not refrigeration, but actually freezing. And it's not a variable menu that changes day to day. You actually can buy your chicken teriyaki in bulk, 10 units, drop it in your freezer and, like you recalled our conversation when I told you that in my belief there is a cultural predisposition here in Poland for such service to flourish, because we do not celebrate eating in the same way as many cultures do. We don't have siesta time, we don't have the ocean or the sea with the fresh fish, with the richness it delivers. We are this up-and-coming society, ever-growing middle class, non-present in the 80s. So we're, all you know, new to the capitalistic realm, to money.

We all want to be fit, we all want to have a six-pack, we all want to have a. We all want to lease a blw and being fit and healthy is a high priority. Look how many gyms. Look how big is the fitness influencer realm space. Look how little people actually smoke and drink. Go to Lisbon all the youth is hashish a little tobacco and not as concerned about their health. Health they're. It's actually something more to the surface, not as deep in the looks at first and the health is secondary. For for many, I believe how I observe the people training at the gym, it's not for longevity, it's for the bicep, you know, for the summer body, for for the body set you know For the summer body, for the summer body For Mykonos.

So the market is huge and there will be premium services and mass market services. We are niched in the premium segments of the market, the premium segments of the market delivering values which other companies have no concern about, period. So I appreciate your warm words saying that we are the best catering service for those who seek those values. We are and our values are mostly around nutrition and quality.

What makes KickFit special today? Because I see millions of catering companies and and some cook better food than we do.

Okay, fair enough.

And I can. I appreciate the honesty.

I can name a brand or two or three. No names. They have to be sponsors. No names, okay, okay, they make fine dining.

Okay. Name a brand or two names. They have to be sponsors, no names okay, okay they make fine dining.

Okay, I think I know which one I I tried them you, you remove the, the, the food, from the box, so you would add a silver fork and knife and it's fine dining all of a sudden I do that with my plate, so I can feel the moroc experience. I know you like to experience your food with the celebration.

Yeah, exactly, with music in the background.

But our competitive advantage is that we can make your meals tailor-made Period.

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There's no formula that fits all. So in my coaching, when I try to help somebody on how to fulfill his summer, dream.

I have to query, I have to make a little asking to see what is the what's stopping us from being at the at location at the top. So you know some people you have to address gently, sue them, pat them on their back, and some people they need an asshole in their life, telling them straight up you're fucking fat and they need to be reminded of it. Everything that is being very focused for a short period of time is not what's going to get you to the top. You cannot race to the location you want to arrive at, because if there is a fast start, there is always a finish line. You don't want to cross the finish line ever. You want the race to continue.

As you progress, your expectations of where you can, of the location, the location keeps on. You know, commuting with you down the line, the better you get, the better you want to be. We have a saying in Polish apetit rośnie wraz z jedzeniem. You understand, your appetite Grows as you continue eating. So, of course, if there is eight weeks separating us from the deadline, we're gonna have a different strategy than if you were to come to me and say hey, miha, I need to take care of this body and this is my lifetime agenda from now on.

Yeah.

Implementing changes cannot be radical, because radical changes, they have an expiration date. So you want to be realistic about what it is that you can implement daily, consistently, and benefit from the yields, from the compound interests that arise from those little incremental changes. Changing your lifestyle from day to day 180, is going to die one day, sooner or later. It's just impossible to sustain. So, getting back to your question, do not be radical about the changes. Be true to yourself about what it is that you can sustain, about what it is that you can sustain, because if you are a person who's grown to enjoy animal products, you've been eating meat all your life. You cannot go vegan from day to day, because this is your new value set, you know it will burn out.

So you're saying there's no quick formula? Jay, crazy buddy. Here's the thing. Here's my question. There is a quick formula for somebody who's been there already. I see they slipped and they want to lost track different things and they want to lose track.

Different things are going to be different. For them, the most important one is the fact that they've seen this road before. They've been on this road before, so they're only re-entering it. They're not making the path for the first time okay.

Okay, so let's I want to translate the philosophy of kickfit. And so let's say, somebody cannot afford a catering monthly or you know, in the long run, and they want to eat healthy. Which food should they try? What can you tell them, like, if you want to? Like I said again, I'm a person I want to start taking care of my health, but I cannot afford a catering company. I need to cook home, I need to buy my stuff and also, in the other side, I need to work out what can I do. Can you give me the plan of someone who wants to change his life?

Okay, first thing is we need to distinguish two aspects of healthy eating, because eating clean, valuable products, preferably organic, fair trade you know the whole shebam? Yeah, that's great, but you can still overeat on your grass-fed beef, your organic avocados and macadamia nuts and just grow fat. So one thing is the sourcing of the food, and of course, it's best if it's best. Yeah, of course, but I oftentimes repeat that had I had the opportunity to customize my McDonald's sandwiches, I could fix my summer body at McDonald's. Oh, wow, your caloric intake, your macronutrient balance macronutrients, fats, carbs, proteins is on a totally separate side of things, period. So eating clean and eating wisely from an energy perspective are two different things. Eating all those fair trade, organic imports or locally grown articles is expensive.

We're trying to be on budget here.

So the advice for somebody who is going to be cooking themselves is if it fits the budget, please reach out for the best quality products. But this itself will not fix your case, Because if you want to be lean, you have to manage where the energy arises from Again fats, carbs, proteins. So learning the mathematical aspect, and it's simple algebra, of managing energy balance is key to your summer party. If you don't understand the mathematical aspect of nutrition, mathematical aspect of nutrition, you are wasting your energy on.

You're wasting your time, so tell us more about that. So I don't understand nothing about carbs, proteins and what's the most simplified way that I can understand and I can apply it to my diet.

The most simple way to think about it is. Let me offer such explanation. Proteins are to be considered not a source of energy, but a building block. Every cell of your body hair, your retina, your fat, your muscles, your heart, your liver, your bones need amino acids here. That's what they're kind, what that's what they're considered good, what's their, what they are made of. Those cells are fueled with fats and carbohydrates. Fats are essential, period. Your body does not. Your cells do not function without cholesterol, do not function without fats. Carbohydrates are not essential. Cholesterol do not function without fats. Carbohydrates are not essential.

You can live without carbohydrates, this small amount of carbohydrates that your brain actually needs. You can manufacture this glucose yourself from the other two macronutrients protein and fats from the other two macronutrients protein and fats. So the key takeaway here is that you will always need protein and you have to set your quota based on what you believe. Again, because nutrition is much like religion. Some people believe it's two grams of protein per pound of body weight. Others think something else. I don't want to take a voice on what it is, but it's common that everybody understands protein is your building fundament, carbs and fats. Again, your preference, your taste preference on what kind of food you like will determine whether you will be leaning towards fats or carbs. Which route you take is up to you really.

However, being conscious, having the ability to summarize your day Okay, today I ate this and this much calories in total, and it consisted of this many proteins, this many carbs, is the kind of knowledge that one has to have in order to be able to manage their nutrition, because if you don't know how much you've eaten, how can you manage it? You can't. If you have a track let's say you've been tracking your energy for a week you can. You get some feedback after seven days. Okay, I've eaten this and I've responded in such and such way. I have to adjust because I haven't responded in the way I've expected to. If it's all this fluffiness, fluffiness, this it cannot be. It has to be constant for you to be able to report, get feedback and be able to judge whether this eating protocol is good for you or not.

Okay, let's move to the fitness aspect. A lot of people they wish they can work out, but they don't have time. They're working all day, all night. Sometimes they go to the gym and they do this half-assed workout you could see. There is no, and they don't see the results. What's the fastest way or workout I can do to achieve maximum results? How much time did I spend at the gym? Now, I'm assuming that my nutrition is on point. I'm cooking at home. I'm getting your food. What type of workout can I do daily, or maybe three or four times a week? That couldn't deliver concrete results.

The gym is not a place to control your body fat. Whoa, I know this is surprising. The place to control your body fat is the kitchen. One hour of your time at the gym is an expenditure of, on average, let's say, 500 calories, and you're not being lazy with it.

this hour You're pushing it.

You're not hardcore, but you're pushing it. You can stuff your mouth with 500 calories with one spoonful of peanut butter, so your one hour investment can be absolutely demolished with your extracurricular activity activity beyond your kickfit set. Yeah, so the gym is the place where I would like you to be bodybuilding, giving impulses to your body to grow more muscle, to work with your contusions. If you have anything that is giving you pain, it is something you should most absolutely address at the gym.

Man.

Because every aching knee, shoulder whatever you're dealing with needs a therapeutical kind of strength training. Most likely If your back hurts, it's very possible that it hurts because you don't have enough muscle around it and it's weak. So the gym is a place where we really want to spend our time wisely, because running on a treadmill like a hamster is not going to get you far in terms of your summer body and I observe a lot of people wasting time at the gyms. Most of the people I see at the gyms and I've been a frequent gym goer, gym goer since ever is that people waste their time at the gym and I have lots of empathy because I see how they are strong-willed and they have the one.

I achieved something.

You could see the and you see they're trying and they're consistent, they show up every day, but the time investment in the specific activity they engage in is not appropriate. I always think that the other way around, it's not only the hour at the gym, it's the 10 minutes you spent motivating yourself in the morning to go there, making a commitment with yourself okay, I will go to the gym today. Then it's the time you spend driving there, the time in the changing room, twice, going back home. So the time investment is really much greater than what you spend on your elliptical machine. Keep that in mind on your elliptical machine. Keep that in mind.

So, for all, young, old, male, female, bodybuilding, developing your strength, because your strength is the most fundamental assets that you really have. Your muscle mass is positively correlated with your longevity markers. You know, there's no obese centurions, people who are approaching 100 or past 100 and those who got to live past 100. Their muscle mass as a percentage of total weight is very near to what it is. It is for me, actually, or for somebody else who is fit, so, wise, well-prescribed bodybuilding, strength development is what I would advise for everyone who go to gym.

So what exercises can we do? Compound lifts, compound lifts, compound lifts. What does it mean go to gym? So what exercises can we do?

compound lifts. Compound compound lifts what does mean? Like chest press compound? Lift is a deadlift is a squat is a multi-joint movement. This is a one joint movement at the elbow and the biceps is responsible for for that movement. A deadlift is a ankle, knee and hip compound movement involving much more muscle groups and then again, greater yield on your time investment okay, so I know that you had a severe injury, once at least, or many.

The one I remember because this was on video yeah, yeah snowboard and you the snowboard crash I had, yeah, yeah, because I am currently, I would say, injured as well.

I have this problem with my muscles over here between the ribs and I think, because maybe I don't warm up, it's complicated and it is very annoying for me that I cannot perform at the gym and work out. I'm asking the question because I'm trying to connect it to so when you got injured, how long did it take? For a year, you didn't work out For two weeks.

What Are you serious? You had the surgery, man. There's some activities I didn't partake for a long time, but I got back to training right away, right away.

So tell us about the success, because I remember the helicopter came and picked you up. What happened, what went down during that day?

I was in Canada at the very beginning of COVID.

Correct.

I sailed on a snowboard. I was not my usual self. I was pushing it, I was gambling with my health. I was doing something at the time of the day when everybody was leaving for home and there was a little bit of I was a little bit unlucky. I broke my spine. I had two surgeries and I'm here preaching to you why you should never leave the gym and how it's been the means with which I reinstored my health.

So how did that experience affected you as a person, as an athlete Because I know, like all athletes they are really they got depressed. Let's talk about depression. They get depressed when they cannot perform as they used to be and they cannot train and they know they are limited. So how did you deal with that in that moment? What was going through your head, like the moment of the impact?

Well for me. I'm not a professional athlete, so not being able to train does not endanger my financial well-being. However, of course, since it's my greatest passion, not being able to perform takes a toll on you mentally. What was the second part of the question? Sorry?

How did you deal with that? What was going through your head during the impact, mentally? What was the second part of the question, sorry, how did you deal with that, like what was going through your head and during the impact, and how did you get out of it?

basically, the moment of impact, I knew I broke my back, so my first thought was how bad is it and do I feel my legs? Has my spinal cord? Is it intact, or have I damaged it too? And so I wiggled my big toe in the snowboard boot. I felt it moving, communicating with me, and it was a big relief, I must say, because you were expecting the worst.

I didn't know what to expect here. I knew that this is not the case, that I'm not that injured. However, because I couldn't really stand up, I couldn't move without extreme pain. I knew the back is messed up and I knew that it's going to be a long journey to health, and it was. But it was a building journey and I would highlight to anyone who's getting hurt who who got hurt that, although it sounds very cliche and hard to gain that perspective at this moment, but seek the positive aspects of what your situation is, and your situation is that if you will be active about it, you will learn a lot about your body and this will be of value to you forever. I've learned so much about, again, my body, about anatomy, and and these are takeaways for life and they're how do you say, transcendental. Yeah, help me.

I can't pronounce that word either. That was good, universal Universal.

I was lucky to have a gym that was open during the lockdown open for me actually. Are you allowed to say that? I guess now yeah, it's fine it's fine. So as soon as I got my stitches out, I was at the gym and just being active about coming back to health.

So what was pushing you? Because I know, like the average joe would say, okay, I'm injured, I don't find them, which. How did you find the motivation to go back? Why? Why did you say, okay, I need to go back as soon as possible?

more than 10 years prior to that accident, I had a car crash, and that was at the time when actually, I competed as a snowboarder. So I had the experience of rehabilitation from the past, which was of value to me at this time, because I knew that it's a process, that the process is painful sweat, blood and tears but if you put the time investment again, it will deliver.

It will deliver. So I knew what kind of work had to be done and I knew that I can be successful at this work. Somebody else would have had a more difficult time because so many uncertainties, and I was able to manage this uncertainty with this great belief. It's going to all come to place sooner or later. I didn't have a time agenda. I wasn't limited by anything. In fact, I had all the time in the world and with what I do professionally. It's also been helpful because not only the proper nutrition, which is essential if you are dealing with contusions, with any workload that relies heavily on your body, its ability to adapt, but also the different people and connections we have at KickFit specialists in their field of expertise. So I was able to collect from different people little inputs and all contributed to to a fast recovery okay, so did you have to take some extra things like I'm talking extra everything.

So, because I want to venture in that space, which is the supplements, I also. I also want to talk about trt. Your take on that, because we know on the internet world there's a lot of bullshit going on. You have to take that. Take this, that fat burner, this burner, this.

Especially in the fitness and wellness realm.

It's so confusing, it's madness. And what are, for you, the most important supplements that one should take to enhance their fitness performances? Supplements that you live by or you cannot live without?

good question. It's a supplement I actually don't take because I rely so heavily on meat on red meat in my diet. But creatine, creatine yeah, the creatine, creatine is the most researched supplement there is and the research highlights its effectiveness on strength development period. So for somebody who is bodybuilding girl boy I would recommend taking creatine.

Creatine what else Creatine? We got it. Then proteins what's your take on protein shakes, because I know there's like a lot of two schools. Maybe Some people they say no, you should only rely on meat like natural proteins. Some they say no, you should supplement with this.

I believe it's crucial. Everybody, everyone knows their protein quota quota how many grams of protein daily you should consume to achieve your goals, whatever their goal. Those goals are sustaining where you are currently developing, and then how you meet this quota may require you drinking protein shakes. Doesn't have to. Depends on how high your protein intake is to be, depending if you had the time to eat all your meals that day, because if you haven't had the time to eat all your meals, you might have to drink a protein shake to substitute for that one meal you skipped. And, of course, it the protein powder way. It's a milk byproduct, is a highly processed food and and there's better protein powders and sub.

Like low-quality ones.

And low-quality ones, ones that are pure single-ingredient whey, others that have tons of other ingredients for the flavor, for the shelf life of the product. There was a time where I consumed lots of protein powders. I cannot say that there were any side effects, undesired showings, showings. So, to respond to your question, I believe it is best if all your protein arrives from whole food products, but if you don't meet your protein quota, it's better you take the protein powder than you don't, and you have a gap between where you should be and what you shouldn't be consuming and what you're actually consuming.

All right, so now we have two. We have creatine protein. What else? What else in terms of Because I remember you recommended me this when we were trying to work on my diet and fitness Was it like fish oil that you recommended to me and a bunch of other stuff?

fish oil is the, the, the fatty acids that are in the fish oil most experts agree on their effectiveness on their effectiveness. It's not in any way controversial, like you highlighted just a second ago. It's hard to make any sense of the noise out there about wellness nutrition. Again, it's much like religion. What you believe in, yeah, but the fish oil, the creatine, the whey powder, those are universally accepted and that's why I feel uh uncomfortable recommending it to you interesting.

okay, now let's talk about a little bit of the TRT. What's your take on the testosterone replacement therapy? Are you for it, against it? When should we do it? Huh?

Are you considering?

I don't know how old are you. I'm't know how old are you I'm 38, you're 38, so we're uh peers yeah, we have the same age testosterone replacement therapy.

The t. I always say it's a one-way ticket.

Oh.

If your agenda is to take exogenous testosterone and then set it aside, you are putting upon yourself unwanted side effects Because you are going to boost your endocrine system and then you're going to let it drop. It's going to be a destabilization of your global system. There's no point to get this boost, achieve whatever summer body you want and then depart.

Why is that? Because you will like the side effects are going to be.

You're going to experience side effects are going to be, you're going to experience side effects. What if? If getting that beach body is not your payday is you know it's something you want but you don't have to have?

no, no, no, that's. It's not about the beach bodies, because the people I know who've taken them. You know they are in their 40s, 45, and it's if's, if it's for your vitality, yeah. If it's for your, you know you have the drive, the sexual drive. You know, like Some people, this is very known scientific. I think the testosterone at some age starts to drop in a very significant way and the way to combat that, to stay sharp, is to do the TRT.

Do the TRT? Yes, sir, you mentioned your sexual drive, your libido. Yes. For somebody who is unhealthy their T levels are so low that their sex drive has been affected it's a must-have For somebody who is healthy, who's going to want to just get that extra edge. If TRT, introduced properly, will have no effect on your sex drive. For a healthy person engaging in TRT, if your sex drive is affected, that means you're overdoing. You should not. The amount you take and the incremental change in your T levels should be so insignificant that your love life is not affected, because it can be affected in both ways.

It can rise and then the other day it drops.

So the TRT. I was like, okay, let's talk about it this way. I feel like in my 20s, because I started my first business around when I was like 23 or 24. And I had this insane drive and motivation to make things work, to start a new thing. Now, if you come to me and it's like, hey, can you start a new business? Okay, this is basically a new venture.

I didn't say a business and I'm like, oh man, the business plan, this that I feel like I don't have that craziness anymore, the drive. I mean I'm more into starting something that I am good at already, that I know, which is why I'm doing this podcast, because I know how it works. It's more of an enjoyable process for me. But I would never go back and start a new company and you know the business plan. I'm like I'm done. But then at the same time, there's this voice saying, well, get some TRT, because maybe you don't have. You know, your testosterone levels are dropping, maybe. And I do check myself and they're like normal levels, nothing crazy, they are in the.

I think they are in the mind is too short to be in the average but then again you're like well, I've lived my life, you know, as a, how you say them, how we call them, high achievers, high achievers, and I would like to stay like that, that way. So, because I'm sure you share the same aspect when you're doing something and you get used to performing at some level, there is always this desire to perform even more, at the highest level it's like. For me personally, is FOMO, the fear of missing out. What am I not using that is not helping me to take things to the next level, like even now with this podcast. You know, like when I, before I start people telling me oh no, just do the iphone, it's good, you know.

And I look at them and I'm like the fuck, that's not me. I want the cinematic, the sliding, you know. That's why this guy's there is sliding is, you know, because I love these things, even though it means I'm gonna have to edit and sit down like the whole day, the whole night editing, but the end result is beautiful is there and the proof that people are saying, well, this looks nice, it looks professional and it's enjoyable. I'm doing it because I love it. But then again there's that voice that's saying what aren't you doing and I'm not gonna lie, I see these people on social media. Unfortunately they look 45, 48, 50 and they look jacked and I know they are on trt, but then I'm trying to control myself to not go there. How do I fight with this devil voice and the angel voice? You don't fight it you manage it.

Good answer.

You find your middle grounds. You want to look healthy and fit when you're undressed. You don't want to look jacked in your t-shirt because that's just not.

It's not who we are, that's not who we are.

You gotta wear the suit man. You gotta be able to look good in this without too many tailor adjustments. Yeah, I don't want you to think that you're missing out on something, but then again, I think you are missing why? Because you are on trt I've been on trt for a long time now okay, how long? Eight years wow that young you started, I was 31, yeah but why?

because to enhance your performance or to be able to put a greater toll on my body, to enjoy all the benefits, and I was lucky to have a good introduction to the TRT, good relationships with people who inspired me on how to move in this realm not to experience any side effects.

Never, ever. I see Well, you look good man. Thank you. I don't see any hair falling.

No hair loss. And you can tell I would be concerned about losing my red locks. No acne.

No small balls. I can't confirm that.

No mood swings.

It's important yeah.

I don't call my mother to cry out swings. I don't call my mother to cry out. You will experience, not a boost of motivation. You will experience that you can sleep seven hours and feel like you've slept nine. You will enjoy different subjective experiences, body experiences and those in consequence will make you feel booster motivation.

I see what you mean. Because he will feel stronger, more resilient, just like more driven Because you feel good, you sleep good, you're working out very good.

And that's a side effect, that you're just more, you're highly driven, I honestly.

we are approaching slowly but surely.

Don't say this out loud.

Don't say this out loud and it's just like my body hurts everywhere and I'm like what the fuck why? I'm just 38 man, like imagine what I'm gonna say in 50 or 60.

I can't accept this mother nature never planned for us to live this long. That's why we need this boost so you are for trt.

You are for TRT. You are advising guys who are listening to us now to go for it.

I advise it to people who I believe will be able to manage it. So what do you mean?

by that, because I believe.

For many people it will slip out of their control, like they cannot manage alcohol, like they cannot manage other things in their life. This is something that is potentially very dangerous and needs to be considered as a potentially harmful substance, because if you're experiencing like the benefits that you reached for, you might be mistaken to want to take more than you had been taking, like it's pretty, you get greedy, like lord of the rings.

You get too powerful and you want to push it even further and actually I believe that testosterone or just a different let's call it straight up anabolic steroids are a very commonly abused group of substances. So somebody who has an addictive nature possibly will be abusing TRT period. Trt, by its definition, is a therapeutical dose, like micro-dosing, something like that. Yeah, and there's no specific cap, because it's different for different people. You will respond differently to the same amount I will, differently to the same amount I will, but more than a certain amount will be commonly considered doping and not TRT. So you want to be in that gentleman's area where it's therapy and not doping so what about the stigma about around TRT, some people that I got all this?

no, this is fake. This guy is cheating this guy is that Because now you ask me if I'm thinking, I'm seriously considering it but at the same time, because I have a following, who some people look up to me.

But your following is not judging you upon your fitness. True that.

They're judging you upon your fitness. True that they're judging you upon other fruits of your work. You're not an athlete. You're not Lance Armstrong who's being punished until today for his. True, that's what I mean, you know, it's a matter of philosophy. I believe athletes shouldn't be allowed to use performance and enhancing drugs. Because athletes are delivering entertainment to us spectators. Yeah, the spectacle is going to be better if they are allowed to use PEDs. They are using PEDs anyways, they're just. There's a huge business aimed to allow athletes to be clean during the day when they need to piss, clean. It makes them less healthy than more healthy to take PEDs at certain time. Drop it clean out for the competition day. Actually, one of the founders of Napster I can't recall his name okay, he is offering his fee. He's selling this. New sports happening. It's called the enhanced games. Wow, during the olympics in paris he's going to. They are going to make a competition that a lot.

I wrote that I see All the athletes are free to dope.

They are claiming they have an athlete his name is unknown who will beat the world record 100 meters race. I believe this is going to be a more interesting show. Athletes who will be able to take performance enhancing drugs will have a longer career period. So for ufc fighters, they reach their peak mid-30s. They all could fight longer if they were able to take different substances that they're not. They could potentially go into their 40s as professional athletes. So yes, I am advocate of TRT. I believe performance enhancing drugs should be allowed in all professional sports, because sports are a spectacle period. They are to deliver entertainment. The show would be better if they were all on high T's. However, I communicate about the different dangers that arrive potentially from misuse.

So when you say it's like a one-way ticket, like if you start TRT, it means you can never stop.

It's not that you cannot, and it, I believe, will be better for your longevity if you don't stop and you responsibly continue to use, you continue to regularly monitor your blood and implement it as your routine.

But it's quite the investment, isn't it, if you are going to do it for the long term.

The substance itself is not an investment at all. The tea. The tea is a drug in the public domain. There's really no intellectual property in possession of any pharmaceutical company. It's cheap to produce.

Okay.

So it's cheap. Period. Your doctors, or whoever is, you know, monitoring you? Hopefully, you, I'm not equipped. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not equipped. I'm not. You, I'm not equipped. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not equipped. I'm not equipped, I'm not equipped. But whoever's taking care of you? All the blood work? That is some cost, but then again, you're hoping that this is the grounds on which you will be more productive. Absolutely, and it's much cheaper than a good party time in Bar.

Shabbat True, we should cut up on that. Well, that's been an interesting conversation, miau. Thank you so much. Thank you For coming here. Any parting words, any advice to our listeners?

I advise everybody to monitor the Warsaw Confidential podcast.

That they do.

Because we are expecting it to get popularity and I'm very thankful for allowing me to be one of the first guests on the show.

Hopefully we can have you more, you know, as a regular guest.

I will work on my English. Make it more agile.

We can do it in Polish next time With your friend, no, with me, tak.

No, Janusz, twój polski jest gotowy.

No tak, a ja rozumiem prawie wszystko, ale Rozumieć, to rozumieć, ale jeszcze musisz przeprowadzić wywiad. Tak, tak, ale będzie Super. Thank you, sir.

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